De Schepper says rivals skip the FINMA costs Swiss banks must bear. He still wants Yuh at 1 million users, leaning on its chatbot to avoid hiring.
Yuh holds a fraction of Revolut's 1.2 million Swiss users, but now targets 1 million without adding staff.
Jan De Schepper, the CEO of Yuh
The boss of
Swissquote's digital banking app Yuh took aim at foreign rivals such as
Revolut, arguing they compete unfairly in Switzerland by avoiding the licensing
costs that local banks have to carry.
He made the
comments while laying out a plan to more than double Yuh's customer base
without hiring anyone new.
Yuh now
counts about 425,000 customers, De Schepper said, up from the roughly 342,000
accounts the company reported in mid-2025. He said close to 20% of them open
the app daily, a rate he described as high by global standards.
To hit 1
million without growing the team, De Schepper is betting on Yuh's chatbot,
Yuhlia, which he wants handling 90% of customer queries. The app turned its first annual profit in 2024, earning CHF 1.7 million, after
account numbers jumped 48% that year.
He sketched
a path through roughly half a million users this year and 750,000 by 2028, with
the timing of the 1 million mark tied to overseas expansion. "Fee
increases are not the way, we're betting on scale," he said.
Taking Aim at Revolut's
Swiss Advance
Revolut
leads the Swiss neobank market with a 53% share and 1.2 million users,
according to figures cited in the interview. The British fintech has pushed aggressively across Europe, recently passing 6 million
customers in Spain, and now offers everything from savings to CFD trading.
De Schepper
conceded a player of that size is hard to catch on raw numbers, but argued the
contest should be measured differently.
He said Yuh
earns more than CHF 200 in revenue per active customer a year and holds average
balances near CHF 10,000, which he claimed beats the industry norm. Revolut, he
said, is often used only as a holiday account for small sums.
His sharper
complaint was about the rules. "What Revolut and co. do borders on unfair
competition," De Schepper said, noting that Yuh answers to FINMA and pays
for that oversight while unlicensed rivals avoid those costs. He called
it unacceptable that such firms can market so aggressively to Swiss customers.
Omar Arnaout, the CEO of XTB
De Schepper
is not the only European fintech boss with strong views on Revolut. XTB chief
executive Omar Arnaout took a very different tack at the Invest Cuffs
conference in Warsaw in December, where he said he "hates" the
British app even
while praising it.
"I
hate them because they've grown so much, but they're just excellent,"
Arnaout said, adding that he uses Revolut himself and that his team studies its
product moves daily.
Where De
Schepper paints Revolut as a regulatory problem, Arnaout treats it as the
benchmark to beat.
A Crowded Field Forces
Swiss Neobanks to Pick Sides
De
Schepper's pitch lands in a market where pure retail banking apps are
struggling to pay their way. He pointed to Swiss rivals Kaspar& and Yapeal,
both of which have shifted toward business-to-business work, and said the home
market simply does not have room for everyone.
The
pressure is not unique to Switzerland. Berlin-based Trade Republic, Europe's
largest neobroker, doubled its user base to 8 million over the past year and has pushed
from cheap stock trading into current accounts, bond ETFs and, since November
2025, private market funds run with Apollo and EQT. It was last valued at €12.5 billion in a December secondary deal.
That land
grab is reshaping how the industry sorts itself. Some brokers chase scale
through low fees, others bundle banking, saving and investing into a single
"super app," a split rival executives have called the defining contest in retail
finance.
De
Schepper's answer is to lean on Swissquote, pointing Yuh at price-sensitive
retail users while the parent keeps wealthier clients, a two-brand setup he
likened to a telecom running budget and premium labels side by side.
He outlined
plans for subscription tiers aimed at frequent travelers, active investors and
families, a model Revolut has used to lift revenue, plus a fourth product pillar
called "Protect" that would sell travel, cyber and liability cover
with an insurance partner. Lombard loans, backed by a customer's portfolio, are
also under review.
The harder
task is turning second accounts into primary ones. De Schepper said more than
20,000 customers already route their salaries to Yuh, worth monthly inflows of
CHF 150 million to CHF 200 million, and that cheaper pricing on services like
Twint and Switzerland's pillar 3a pension accounts is meant to pull more
everyday banking onto the app.
A CHF 180 Million
Valuation and a Goodwill Question
Yuh's
economics still draw scrutiny. Figures cited in the interview put Swissquote's
group margin at 51.4% against Yuh's 1.9%, a gap De Schepper attributed to a
deliberate choice to chase growth over early profit.
The app's
balance sheet carries CHF 95.4 million in goodwill against net assets of about
CHF 71 million, raising the prospect of a writedown. De Schepper said none is
needed as long as Yuh hits its business plan.
He noted
that Swissquote's buyout of PostFinance's 50% stake earlier this year set a concrete
value on the app for the first time, at CHF 180 million, or about $224 million,
covering its customer base, brand and intellectual property.
Succession Talk at the
Swissquote Parent
De
Schepper's dual role has fueled speculation he could one day succeed Swissquote
co-founder and chief executive Marc Bürki. Asked about it, he said the decision
rests with the board and praised Bürki's record, adding he hopes the CEO stays
on for a long time.
For now, De
Schepper said his focus is on Yuh and on carrying the two-brand strategy
abroad, using a Luxembourg license that lets the app passport into the European
Union.
He said Yuh
would start with one or two neighboring countries.
The boss of
Swissquote's digital banking app Yuh took aim at foreign rivals such as
Revolut, arguing they compete unfairly in Switzerland by avoiding the licensing
costs that local banks have to carry.
He made the
comments while laying out a plan to more than double Yuh's customer base
without hiring anyone new.
Yuh now
counts about 425,000 customers, De Schepper said, up from the roughly 342,000
accounts the company reported in mid-2025. He said close to 20% of them open
the app daily, a rate he described as high by global standards.
To hit 1
million without growing the team, De Schepper is betting on Yuh's chatbot,
Yuhlia, which he wants handling 90% of customer queries. The app turned its first annual profit in 2024, earning CHF 1.7 million, after
account numbers jumped 48% that year.
He sketched
a path through roughly half a million users this year and 750,000 by 2028, with
the timing of the 1 million mark tied to overseas expansion. "Fee
increases are not the way, we're betting on scale," he said.
Taking Aim at Revolut's
Swiss Advance
Revolut
leads the Swiss neobank market with a 53% share and 1.2 million users,
according to figures cited in the interview. The British fintech has pushed aggressively across Europe, recently passing 6 million
customers in Spain, and now offers everything from savings to CFD trading.
De Schepper
conceded a player of that size is hard to catch on raw numbers, but argued the
contest should be measured differently.
He said Yuh
earns more than CHF 200 in revenue per active customer a year and holds average
balances near CHF 10,000, which he claimed beats the industry norm. Revolut, he
said, is often used only as a holiday account for small sums.
His sharper
complaint was about the rules. "What Revolut and co. do borders on unfair
competition," De Schepper said, noting that Yuh answers to FINMA and pays
for that oversight while unlicensed rivals avoid those costs. He called
it unacceptable that such firms can market so aggressively to Swiss customers.
Omar Arnaout, the CEO of XTB
De Schepper
is not the only European fintech boss with strong views on Revolut. XTB chief
executive Omar Arnaout took a very different tack at the Invest Cuffs
conference in Warsaw in December, where he said he "hates" the
British app even
while praising it.
"I
hate them because they've grown so much, but they're just excellent,"
Arnaout said, adding that he uses Revolut himself and that his team studies its
product moves daily.
Where De
Schepper paints Revolut as a regulatory problem, Arnaout treats it as the
benchmark to beat.
A Crowded Field Forces
Swiss Neobanks to Pick Sides
De
Schepper's pitch lands in a market where pure retail banking apps are
struggling to pay their way. He pointed to Swiss rivals Kaspar& and Yapeal,
both of which have shifted toward business-to-business work, and said the home
market simply does not have room for everyone.
The
pressure is not unique to Switzerland. Berlin-based Trade Republic, Europe's
largest neobroker, doubled its user base to 8 million over the past year and has pushed
from cheap stock trading into current accounts, bond ETFs and, since November
2025, private market funds run with Apollo and EQT. It was last valued at €12.5 billion in a December secondary deal.
That land
grab is reshaping how the industry sorts itself. Some brokers chase scale
through low fees, others bundle banking, saving and investing into a single
"super app," a split rival executives have called the defining contest in retail
finance.
De
Schepper's answer is to lean on Swissquote, pointing Yuh at price-sensitive
retail users while the parent keeps wealthier clients, a two-brand setup he
likened to a telecom running budget and premium labels side by side.
He outlined
plans for subscription tiers aimed at frequent travelers, active investors and
families, a model Revolut has used to lift revenue, plus a fourth product pillar
called "Protect" that would sell travel, cyber and liability cover
with an insurance partner. Lombard loans, backed by a customer's portfolio, are
also under review.
The harder
task is turning second accounts into primary ones. De Schepper said more than
20,000 customers already route their salaries to Yuh, worth monthly inflows of
CHF 150 million to CHF 200 million, and that cheaper pricing on services like
Twint and Switzerland's pillar 3a pension accounts is meant to pull more
everyday banking onto the app.
A CHF 180 Million
Valuation and a Goodwill Question
Yuh's
economics still draw scrutiny. Figures cited in the interview put Swissquote's
group margin at 51.4% against Yuh's 1.9%, a gap De Schepper attributed to a
deliberate choice to chase growth over early profit.
The app's
balance sheet carries CHF 95.4 million in goodwill against net assets of about
CHF 71 million, raising the prospect of a writedown. De Schepper said none is
needed as long as Yuh hits its business plan.
He noted
that Swissquote's buyout of PostFinance's 50% stake earlier this year set a concrete
value on the app for the first time, at CHF 180 million, or about $224 million,
covering its customer base, brand and intellectual property.
Succession Talk at the
Swissquote Parent
De
Schepper's dual role has fueled speculation he could one day succeed Swissquote
co-founder and chief executive Marc Bürki. Asked about it, he said the decision
rests with the board and praised Bürki's record, adding he hopes the CEO stays
on for a long time.
For now, De
Schepper said his focus is on Yuh and on carrying the two-brand strategy
abroad, using a Luxembourg license that lets the app passport into the European
Union.
He said Yuh
would start with one or two neighboring countries.
Damian Chmiel is a Senior Analyst & Editor at Finance Magnates with more than 15 years of experience in the CFD and online trading industry. Active as both a trader and journalist since 2010, he focuses on broker coverage, fintech innovation, and regulatory developments across Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.
His work includes interviews with C-level leaders at major brokerages and fintech platforms, as well as co-authoring Finance Magnates’ quarterly industry benchmarking reports. Damian’s reporting is data-driven, market-aware, and grounded in direct industry engagement. His analysis and commentary have also been cited by external media outlets, including Investing.com, Binance, The Asset, Stockhead, and Dispatch.
Education:
MA in Finance and Accounting, Cracow University of Economics
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