London Capital Group posted its 2012 results some of which it already revealed in preliminary update posted in January, and as expected the results aren't great. Revenue and volume were down over 25% putting the company in the red. This is probably the reason why LCG became a takeover target for several brokers such as Gain Capital and City Index as was announced last week. LCG has a strong brand and large client base but could use a strong strategic partner such as Gain or City Index that will be able to improve operational results and promote the company globally.
AUDITED RESULTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 DECEMBER 2012
Financial Highlights
As expected lack of volatility led to suppressed trading volumes and decreased revenue
Revenue decreased 27% to £28.6m (2011: £39.0m)
Adjusted loss before tax* of £0.2m (2011: adjusted profit of £7.1m)
Included within adjusted loss before tax* are exceptional legal costs of £0.5m (2011: £0.7m)
Aggregate losses incurred in relation to the Group's Australian CFD business and Gibraltar FSB business amounted to £1.2m (2011: £0.8m)
Statutory loss before tax of £2.1m (2011: profit of £6.1m)
Net cash and short term receivables of £20.4m at year end (2011: £25.1m)
No final dividend proposed (2011: 2.6p per share), bringing total dividend for the year to 1.3p (2011: 3.9p)
Operational Highlights
UK financial spread betting ("FSB") performance
Divisional revenue down 26%
FSB average trades per day decreased 24% to 25,029 (2011: 33,042)
New client acquisition totalled 10,123 (2011: 10,398)
Successful launch of new white label clients Selftrade, Victor Chandler and Goodbody Stockbrokers
Institutional foreign exchange performance
Trade volumes decreased to $383bn (2011: $544bn)
Divisional revenue of £6.1m (2011: £8.0m); divisional profit of £1.7m (2011: £2.4m)
Board changes
§ Simon Denham has stepped down as CEO and will be replaced by Mark Slade
Year ended
Year ended
31-Dec-12
31-Dec-11
£'000
£'000
Revenue
28,586
38,963
Adjusted EBITDA**
1,745
8,884
Adjusted (loss)/profit before tax*
-154
7,063
Statutory (loss)/profit before tax
-2,050
6,141
Basic (loss)/earnings per share
(3.33)p
8.64p
Diluted (loss)/earnings per share
(3.33)p
8.64p
Dividend per share
1.3 p
3.9 p
*Adjusted (loss)/profit before tax represents (loss)/profit before tax excluding share based payment expense, impairment charges to goodwill, professional client debts, and the movement in the provision for FOS claims. Applied consistently hereafter.
**Adjusted EBITDA represents profit before interest, tax, depreciation, amortisation and share based payment expense and excludes the movement in the provision for FOS claims, impairment charges to goodwill and professional client debts. Applied consistently hereafter.
For further information, please contact: www.londoncapitalgroup.com
CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT
For the year ended 31 December 2012
As anticipated, 2012 proved to be a difficult year for the Group. Financial results were disappointing with a marked decline in customer trading activity, especially in the second half of the year. Whilst it is often easy to blame market conditions, it remains true that lower levels of volatility in markets overall meant that there were less trading opportunities for LCG's customers to pursue. As a result revenues were 27% lower than 2011 and profits declined throughout the year leading to a £0.2m adjusted loss before tax for the year as a whole.
Given the results, and having paid a 1.3p dividend at the half year, the Board does not consider it appropriate to pay a final dividend. The Board's policy is to pay dividends from available profits whilst considering the current and future capital requirements of the business.
Against an unfavourable background, the Board decided to address three urgent problems in the last quarter of the year: firstly, it launched a review to ensure that the Group's costs were aligned to a possible lower revenue base, especially if lower market volatility persisted for a long time. As part of the review the Board identified potential savings of £4 million which will be implemented through 2013. Secondly, the Board concluded that LCG's current international operations will not meet the Group's return on investment expectations in 2013 and certain of these operations should therefore be sold or restructured. Thirdly, the Board review included an overall assessment of organisational effectiveness which will lead to changes in the structure of the operational management.
In terms of other Board changes, as announced on 13 January, Rachel Woodford also decided to step down from her role as COO to pursue other interests and will leave the Board in July this year. The Board is very grateful for all her hard work over the last nine years and we wish her well.
2013 has started with stronger equity markets and the possibility of more activity in the currency and credit markets. The Group remains well capitalised and well positioned to take advantage of any major upswing in activity. The Board plans are to promote the Company's core businesses, and use the Group's partnership programmes to develop international business in a more cost effective manner. The Board believe that the fundamentals of the business remain sound but that some of the increases in costs and overall efficiency need correcting swiftly without cutting out the capacity for growth in the business.
Giles Vardey
Chairman
20 February 2013
London Capital Group posted its 2012 results some of which it already revealed in preliminary update posted in January, and as expected the results aren't great. Revenue and volume were down over 25% putting the company in the red. This is probably the reason why LCG became a takeover target for several brokers such as Gain Capital and City Index as was announced last week. LCG has a strong brand and large client base but could use a strong strategic partner such as Gain or City Index that will be able to improve operational results and promote the company globally.
AUDITED RESULTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 DECEMBER 2012
Financial Highlights
As expected lack of volatility led to suppressed trading volumes and decreased revenue
Revenue decreased 27% to £28.6m (2011: £39.0m)
Adjusted loss before tax* of £0.2m (2011: adjusted profit of £7.1m)
Included within adjusted loss before tax* are exceptional legal costs of £0.5m (2011: £0.7m)
Aggregate losses incurred in relation to the Group's Australian CFD business and Gibraltar FSB business amounted to £1.2m (2011: £0.8m)
Statutory loss before tax of £2.1m (2011: profit of £6.1m)
Net cash and short term receivables of £20.4m at year end (2011: £25.1m)
No final dividend proposed (2011: 2.6p per share), bringing total dividend for the year to 1.3p (2011: 3.9p)
Operational Highlights
UK financial spread betting ("FSB") performance
Divisional revenue down 26%
FSB average trades per day decreased 24% to 25,029 (2011: 33,042)
New client acquisition totalled 10,123 (2011: 10,398)
Successful launch of new white label clients Selftrade, Victor Chandler and Goodbody Stockbrokers
Institutional foreign exchange performance
Trade volumes decreased to $383bn (2011: $544bn)
Divisional revenue of £6.1m (2011: £8.0m); divisional profit of £1.7m (2011: £2.4m)
Board changes
§ Simon Denham has stepped down as CEO and will be replaced by Mark Slade
Year ended
Year ended
31-Dec-12
31-Dec-11
£'000
£'000
Revenue
28,586
38,963
Adjusted EBITDA**
1,745
8,884
Adjusted (loss)/profit before tax*
-154
7,063
Statutory (loss)/profit before tax
-2,050
6,141
Basic (loss)/earnings per share
(3.33)p
8.64p
Diluted (loss)/earnings per share
(3.33)p
8.64p
Dividend per share
1.3 p
3.9 p
*Adjusted (loss)/profit before tax represents (loss)/profit before tax excluding share based payment expense, impairment charges to goodwill, professional client debts, and the movement in the provision for FOS claims. Applied consistently hereafter.
**Adjusted EBITDA represents profit before interest, tax, depreciation, amortisation and share based payment expense and excludes the movement in the provision for FOS claims, impairment charges to goodwill and professional client debts. Applied consistently hereafter.
For further information, please contact: www.londoncapitalgroup.com
CHAIRMAN'S STATEMENT
For the year ended 31 December 2012
As anticipated, 2012 proved to be a difficult year for the Group. Financial results were disappointing with a marked decline in customer trading activity, especially in the second half of the year. Whilst it is often easy to blame market conditions, it remains true that lower levels of volatility in markets overall meant that there were less trading opportunities for LCG's customers to pursue. As a result revenues were 27% lower than 2011 and profits declined throughout the year leading to a £0.2m adjusted loss before tax for the year as a whole.
Given the results, and having paid a 1.3p dividend at the half year, the Board does not consider it appropriate to pay a final dividend. The Board's policy is to pay dividends from available profits whilst considering the current and future capital requirements of the business.
Against an unfavourable background, the Board decided to address three urgent problems in the last quarter of the year: firstly, it launched a review to ensure that the Group's costs were aligned to a possible lower revenue base, especially if lower market volatility persisted for a long time. As part of the review the Board identified potential savings of £4 million which will be implemented through 2013. Secondly, the Board concluded that LCG's current international operations will not meet the Group's return on investment expectations in 2013 and certain of these operations should therefore be sold or restructured. Thirdly, the Board review included an overall assessment of organisational effectiveness which will lead to changes in the structure of the operational management.
In terms of other Board changes, as announced on 13 January, Rachel Woodford also decided to step down from her role as COO to pursue other interests and will leave the Board in July this year. The Board is very grateful for all her hard work over the last nine years and we wish her well.
2013 has started with stronger equity markets and the possibility of more activity in the currency and credit markets. The Group remains well capitalised and well positioned to take advantage of any major upswing in activity. The Board plans are to promote the Company's core businesses, and use the Group's partnership programmes to develop international business in a more cost effective manner. The Board believe that the fundamentals of the business remain sound but that some of the increases in costs and overall efficiency need correcting swiftly without cutting out the capacity for growth in the business.
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Attendees will walk away with:
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-Understanding of what turns a market observation into a live position, and what holds it when conditions shift
-Insight into how timing, execution quality, and market structure shaped the final result
-Perspective on what the trade revealed about edge, risk tolerance, and when to hold through a position moving against you
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Most market post-mortems describe what happened to prices. Few describe what happened in the trading room while the position was open: the entry conviction, the moments that tested it, and the exit decision that closed the book.
This session brings one seasoned trader to the stage for an unfiltered account of the position that still defines how they think about markets.
Attendees will walk away with:
-A first-hand account of how a conviction trade is built, from thesis and entry through position management and exit
-Understanding of what turns a market observation into a live position, and what holds it when conditions shift
-Insight into how timing, execution quality, and market structure shaped the final result
-Perspective on what the trade revealed about edge, risk tolerance, and when to hold through a position moving against you
-Clarity on what separates a well-built trade from a well-timed one
Most market post-mortems describe what happened to prices. Few describe what happened in the trading room while the position was open: the entry conviction, the moments that tested it, and the exit decision that closed the book.
This session brings one seasoned trader to the stage for an unfiltered account of the position that still defines how they think about markets.
Attendees will walk away with:
-A first-hand account of how a conviction trade is built, from thesis and entry through position management and exit
-Understanding of what turns a market observation into a live position, and what holds it when conditions shift
-Insight into how timing, execution quality, and market structure shaped the final result
-Perspective on what the trade revealed about edge, risk tolerance, and when to hold through a position moving against you
-Clarity on what separates a well-built trade from a well-timed one
Most market post-mortems describe what happened to prices. Few describe what happened in the trading room while the position was open: the entry conviction, the moments that tested it, and the exit decision that closed the book.
This session brings one seasoned trader to the stage for an unfiltered account of the position that still defines how they think about markets.
Attendees will walk away with:
-A first-hand account of how a conviction trade is built, from thesis and entry through position management and exit
-Understanding of what turns a market observation into a live position, and what holds it when conditions shift
-Insight into how timing, execution quality, and market structure shaped the final result
-Perspective on what the trade revealed about edge, risk tolerance, and when to hold through a position moving against you
-Clarity on what separates a well-built trade from a well-timed one
Most market post-mortems describe what happened to prices. Few describe what happened in the trading room while the position was open: the entry conviction, the moments that tested it, and the exit decision that closed the book.
This session brings one seasoned trader to the stage for an unfiltered account of the position that still defines how they think about markets.
Attendees will walk away with:
-A first-hand account of how a conviction trade is built, from thesis and entry through position management and exit
-Understanding of what turns a market observation into a live position, and what holds it when conditions shift
-Insight into how timing, execution quality, and market structure shaped the final result
-Perspective on what the trade revealed about edge, risk tolerance, and when to hold through a position moving against you
-Clarity on what separates a well-built trade from a well-timed one
Most market post-mortems describe what happened to prices. Few describe what happened in the trading room while the position was open: the entry conviction, the moments that tested it, and the exit decision that closed the book.
This session brings one seasoned trader to the stage for an unfiltered account of the position that still defines how they think about markets.
Attendees will walk away with:
-A first-hand account of how a conviction trade is built, from thesis and entry through position management and exit
-Understanding of what turns a market observation into a live position, and what holds it when conditions shift
-Insight into how timing, execution quality, and market structure shaped the final result
-Perspective on what the trade revealed about edge, risk tolerance, and when to hold through a position moving against you
-Clarity on what separates a well-built trade from a well-timed one