Saeed Amen, author of “Trading Thalesians: What the Ancient World Can Teach Us About Trading Today”, discusses the past, present and future of FX trading.
One of the first things people want to know when they meet Saeed Amen, Co-Founder and Consulting Quant for The Thalesians, is: what does Thalesians mean?
The puzzling name refers to the Greek philosopher, Thales of Miletus, the first options trader.
Mythology has it that after becoming fed up with being ridiculed for being an impractical philosopher, an occupation suited only for poverty, Thales made a fortune by forecasting a good olive harvest and cornering the press market.
Saeed Amen, Author and Consulting Quant, The Thalesians
“I’ve been working in markets for 10 years, and it was a natural extension to write about I’d seen, but at the same time, I wanted to have a spin on it,” said Amen. “I didn’t know too much about the ancient world before I started the book, so it was a good opportunity to find out what’s happened in history.”
Amen’s decade in the financial industry includes working in major investment banks like Nomura and Morgan Stanley, but his most memorable experience may have been watching Lehman Brothers implode from the inside as a young quant strategist.
Risk has been transferred from sell side to buy side in Execution
That catastrophe served as a catalyst to start the Thalesians, along with his colleagues Paul Bilokon, currently a director at Deutsche Bank, and Matthew Dixon, currently an academic in Chicago.
“We were trying to work out what went wrong, so we started The Thalesians seminars, and it built up into a big community,” said Amen. The Meetup group has just over 1,800 members with branches in London, New York, San Francisco and Budapest.
It’s also grown into a research and consultancy with an office in Level39, a fintech hub in London’s financial district, Canary Wharf, and Amen is a regular commentator on the markets for major media outlets.
And just as looking back at ancient wisdom can teach us about how we got here, and where we might be going, so too can speculating about the future. The next big thing in Institutional FX, said Amen, is going to be in the execution space.
“It’s not going to be the case that you are just going to a broker and get a price for your $1 billion order because banks will charge you, they can’t take as much risk as they used to,” said Amen.
A few years ago, most orders were manual but things are changing: ticket sizes are going lower, more and more is being transacted on electronic platforms, and it costs more for the buy side to get prices in big sizes. In other words, execution risk is going up.
When buy side uses trading algorithms, there’s no way of knowing what the price will be at the end of the fill. It’s a whole new way of thinking from going to a broker and getting a price up front, Amen noted.
It also means buy side will need to manage and optimize execution risk: “That part’s (about) going to the right venue, what type of execution algorithms you are using, and whether your bank’s giving you the best Liquidity .”
“Risk has been transferred from sell side to buy side in execution,” said Amen. “There’s also a lot more scrutiny of this as well in terms of best execution, there’s regulatory pressure to make sure buy side get the best price.”
One of the first things people want to know when they meet Saeed Amen, Co-Founder and Consulting Quant for The Thalesians, is: what does Thalesians mean?
The puzzling name refers to the Greek philosopher, Thales of Miletus, the first options trader.
Mythology has it that after becoming fed up with being ridiculed for being an impractical philosopher, an occupation suited only for poverty, Thales made a fortune by forecasting a good olive harvest and cornering the press market.
Saeed Amen, Author and Consulting Quant, The Thalesians
“I’ve been working in markets for 10 years, and it was a natural extension to write about I’d seen, but at the same time, I wanted to have a spin on it,” said Amen. “I didn’t know too much about the ancient world before I started the book, so it was a good opportunity to find out what’s happened in history.”
Amen’s decade in the financial industry includes working in major investment banks like Nomura and Morgan Stanley, but his most memorable experience may have been watching Lehman Brothers implode from the inside as a young quant strategist.
Risk has been transferred from sell side to buy side in Execution
That catastrophe served as a catalyst to start the Thalesians, along with his colleagues Paul Bilokon, currently a director at Deutsche Bank, and Matthew Dixon, currently an academic in Chicago.
“We were trying to work out what went wrong, so we started The Thalesians seminars, and it built up into a big community,” said Amen. The Meetup group has just over 1,800 members with branches in London, New York, San Francisco and Budapest.
It’s also grown into a research and consultancy with an office in Level39, a fintech hub in London’s financial district, Canary Wharf, and Amen is a regular commentator on the markets for major media outlets.
And just as looking back at ancient wisdom can teach us about how we got here, and where we might be going, so too can speculating about the future. The next big thing in Institutional FX, said Amen, is going to be in the execution space.
“It’s not going to be the case that you are just going to a broker and get a price for your $1 billion order because banks will charge you, they can’t take as much risk as they used to,” said Amen.
A few years ago, most orders were manual but things are changing: ticket sizes are going lower, more and more is being transacted on electronic platforms, and it costs more for the buy side to get prices in big sizes. In other words, execution risk is going up.
When buy side uses trading algorithms, there’s no way of knowing what the price will be at the end of the fill. It’s a whole new way of thinking from going to a broker and getting a price up front, Amen noted.
It also means buy side will need to manage and optimize execution risk: “That part’s (about) going to the right venue, what type of execution algorithms you are using, and whether your bank’s giving you the best Liquidity .”
“Risk has been transferred from sell side to buy side in execution,” said Amen. “There’s also a lot more scrutiny of this as well in terms of best execution, there’s regulatory pressure to make sure buy side get the best price.”
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We break down Blueberry’s regulatory structure, including its Australian Financial Services License (AFSL), as well as its authorisation and registrations in other jurisdictions. The review also covers supported platforms such as MetaTrader 4, MetaTrader 5, cTrader, TradingView, Blueberry.X, and web-based trading.
You’ll learn about available instruments across forex, commodities, indices, share CFDs, and crypto CFDs, along with leverage options, minimum and maximum trade sizes, and how Blueberry structures its Standard and Raw accounts.
We also explain spreads, commissions, swap rates, swap-free account availability, funding and withdrawal methods, processing times, and what traders can expect from customer support and additional services.
Watch the full review to see whether Blueberry’s trading setup aligns with your experience level, strategy, and risk tolerance.
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In this video, we take an in-depth look at @BlueberryMarketsForex , a forex and CFD broker operating since 2016, offering access to multiple trading platforms, over 1,000 instruments, and flexible account types for different trading styles.
We break down Blueberry’s regulatory structure, including its Australian Financial Services License (AFSL), as well as its authorisation and registrations in other jurisdictions. The review also covers supported platforms such as MetaTrader 4, MetaTrader 5, cTrader, TradingView, Blueberry.X, and web-based trading.
You’ll learn about available instruments across forex, commodities, indices, share CFDs, and crypto CFDs, along with leverage options, minimum and maximum trade sizes, and how Blueberry structures its Standard and Raw accounts.
We also explain spreads, commissions, swap rates, swap-free account availability, funding and withdrawal methods, processing times, and what traders can expect from customer support and additional services.
Watch the full review to see whether Blueberry’s trading setup aligns with your experience level, strategy, and risk tolerance.
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Exness CMO Alfonso Cardalda on Cape Town office launch, Africa growth, and marketing strategy
Exness CMO Alfonso Cardalda on Cape Town office launch, Africa growth, and marketing strategy
Exness is expanding its presence in Africa, and in this exclusive interview, CMO Alfonso Cardalda shares how.
Filmed during the grand opening of Exness’s new Cape Town office, Alfonso sits down with Andrea Badiola Mateos from Finance Magnates to discuss:
- Exness’s marketing approach in South Africa
- What makes their trading product stand out
- Customer retention vs. acquisition strategies
- The role of local influencers
- Managing growth across emerging markets
👉 Watch the full interview for fundamental insights into the future of trading in Africa.
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Exness is expanding its presence in Africa, and in this exclusive interview, CMO Alfonso Cardalda shares how.
Filmed during the grand opening of Exness’s new Cape Town office, Alfonso sits down with Andrea Badiola Mateos from Finance Magnates to discuss:
- Exness’s marketing approach in South Africa
- What makes their trading product stand out
- Customer retention vs. acquisition strategies
- The role of local influencers
- Managing growth across emerging markets
👉 Watch the full interview for fundamental insights into the future of trading in Africa.
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How does the Finance Magnates newsroom handle sensitive updates that may affect a brand?
How does the Finance Magnates newsroom handle sensitive updates that may affect a brand?
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Yam Yehoshua, Editor-in-Chief at Finance Magnates, explains the approach: reaching out before publication, hearing all sides, and making careful, case-by-case decisions with balance and responsibility.
⚖ Balanced reporting
📞 Right of response
📰 Responsible journalism
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We begin with his take on the Summit and then turn to broker growth. Kieran shares one quick, practical tip brokers can use right now to improve performance. We also cover the rising spotlight on prop trading and whether it is good or bad for the trading industry.
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We finish with a look at how he uses AI in his daily workflow — both inside the brokerage and in his own trading.
Here is our conversation with Kieran Duff, who brings a rare dual view of the market as both a broker and a trader at Darwinex.
We begin with his take on the Summit and then turn to broker growth. Kieran shares one quick, practical tip brokers can use right now to improve performance. We also cover the rising spotlight on prop trading and whether it is good or bad for the trading industry.
Kieran explains where Darwinex sits on the CFDs-broker-meets-funding spectrum, and how the model differs from the typical setups seen across the market.
We finish with a look at how he uses AI in his daily workflow — both inside the brokerage and in his own trading.
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Why does trust matter in financial news? #TrustedNews #FinanceNews #CapitalMarkets
According to Yam Yehoshua, Editor-in-Chief at Finance Magnates, in a world flooded with information, the difference lies in rigorous cross-checking, human scrutiny, and a commitment to publishing only factual, trustworthy reporting.
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According to Yam Yehoshua, Editor-in-Chief at Finance Magnates, in a world flooded with information, the difference lies in rigorous cross-checking, human scrutiny, and a commitment to publishing only factual, trustworthy reporting.
📰 Verified reporting
🔎 Human-led scrutiny
✅ Facts over noise